By the way, my prior comment wasn't directed at you. It was directed at people in general. #oppositelock
Oh. It's been a long day. My sarcasmo-meter is currently on the fritz. #oppositelock
She pulls it off quite well. Total knockout. #oppositelock
That's a little frustrating. If there was one thing that I wish we could teach people, it's to be more descriptive. The phrase "It's revving weird" could mean just about anything. How is it revving weird? In what situations does it display the behavior?
Simple details like that would make deducing the problem much easier. #oppositelock
No idea. I can't imagine him getting banned, though. #oppositelock
She is. Rosie Huntington-Whitely is her name. A shame she started her acting career with that mess of a film. If I never see another Michael Bay/Shia LeBeouf (sp?) movie again, it'll be too soon. #oppositelock
To each their own. I think she's cute. I like her accent, too. #oppositelock
No, unfortunately. Interesting vehicle, though. We don't see many of those in the US. They were only on the market for two years, and few of them sold. Most of them have been junked. #oppositelock
Can't edit at the moment for some reason. Oh well. At least the picture loaded. Nibbles doesn't usually like big pictures. #oppositelock
Inspiration for the weekend. Happy Friday, ladies and gentlemen. #oppositelock
That may be the sexiest picture of a Ford GT that I have ever seen. Goodnight, Skaycog. #oppositelock
Awesome picture. I just wish it included the YF-23. In my opinion, Northrop Grumman was robbed. The YF-23 was the better, cheaper aircraft that more closely matched the requirements set out by the Air Force. Like the F-35 award (again an inferior design to its competitor), Lockheed's win had more to do with politics than it did superior design and engineering. #oppositelock
It was an insane overreaction by an idiot based not on the content of the comments but on their source.
Yes- On both sides; Jezebel and Jalopnik. Each guided by their own cultural norms, which are very frequently at odds with each other.
Did you even read the comments?
All of them. A few of them were innocent enough. A few were not.
To be clear, I'm not apologizing one iota for encouraging people to comment on what should have been a really funny and interesting thread.I'm apologizing that my poor choice of words got people banned. I actually don't even accept that, in a rational world, my choice of words was poor.
Then your apology was insincere? Interesting. Not the sort of thing I would have expected from you.
And, dude, to assert that there's some sort of equivalence in the behavior of the the two groups is simply invalid. Pretty condescending, too.
Not in the least. Regardless of different norms or different rules, the commenters on both sites react exactly the same way when they feel the rules and norms that they are used to are violated. I've been commenting on Jalopnik since 2008; I've been reading Jalopnik since 2004. I've been around long enough to see it happen not only here, but on other blogs as well, regardless of whether or not they are associated with Gawker. In this instance, like every other instance of one Gawker site trolling another, both sides needlessly overreacted.
What is condescending is to simply cry out about how you were victimized by evil trolls for your own actions, how those trolls are ignorant and irrational, and how much you dislike them for reacting angrily to your actions which you, by your own admission, freely engaged in.
Like I said above, I honestly don't think that you meant any harm. And I certainly don't think you meant to start a whole shitstorm.
But did you so much as try to think about this whole thing from someone else's perspective?
I have a pretty good idea of your sense of humor, and pretty good idea of Oppo's sense of humor, just like you do. But I also have a pretty good idea of Jezebel's sense of humor (or occasional lack thereof). For as long as you've been around Jalopnik, for as many of these prior trolling instances as you've seen, I would have guessed that you did, too. But apparently not.
But it wasn't just you that failed to stop and think about how someone else might interpret and react to your actions. It was commenters on both sides of the fence, on Jezebel and Jalopnik. This is exactly what commenters of each site accuse each other of.
And you know what? As it turns out, both sides are, ironically, exactly right.
Yet it's the constant bullshit, "poor little me" victimization claims on both sides that keeps perpetuating this. It's kind of sad, really, but there it is. If commenters on either side took the time to actually think about the effects of their actions beyond their noses, both sites would get along just fine.
But, as ever, no one ever does. Oh well.
I'm not your father. I'm not you. I can't tell you what to do or feel. Do and feel whatever you want. But try to keep in mind that no story is ever one-sided. #oppositelock
Yeah, coming from Los Angeles, In & Out was a staple. But when I moved east, everybody and their brother told me how great Five guys was and how they wished is was in California, too. They took me to one, and what I found was a greasy, trashy place that made mediocre, over-cooked burgers. And they didn't even have the goddamn courtesy to at least offer a malt to wash it all down with.
Not. Impressed.
I wish there were In & Out Burger joints here on the east coast, but there is the occasional Johnny Rocket's, which also makes a decent burger. #oppositelock
Old, old?
Ouch, man. Ouch. :) #oppositelock
Now would be an appropriate time for one of those "I ain't even mad!" meme pictures.
I'm not mad. t's just that I don't feel all that sorry for you guys. You knew trolling was a bad idea. You knew trolling Jezebel was a bad idea. You did it anyways. You paid the consequences. Done.
What you didn't know was that that article, and articles by that particular contributor, are generally very controversial with the Jezebel commentariat, and never go over well. And yet, stupidly enough, they keep posting them. It's almost like they're trolling themselves. The fact that you chose that particular post to troll made it all that much worse from their perspective.
But even without that knowledge, you still knew it was a bad idea. And you still did it. Whatever.
I've been around long enough to know your sense of humor, and know that from your perspective, you never meant any harm, and you never meant for it to blow up the way it did. I agree that they were a little harsh, but I'm not even mad about that. I'm just mad at having to deal with the aftermath. I'm also annoyed at the lack of reasoned responses not only from the Jezebel end, but from the Jalopnik end as well. A lot of people got pissed off and whiny at Nick Denton, Jezebel, the Jezebel commentariat, etc., without stopping to think for minute. They just snapped off, just like they accuse Jezebellers of doing. At the end of yesterday, it just got to be a moronic "us vs them" bitch fest , pity party, and victimization claim that was all a bunch of bullshit. It was, and will continue to be, a cultural misunderstanding between the two sites that seems to constantly perpetuate itself.
But it's all done now. Welcome back, my friend, and props for the willingness to put up an honest apology.
Just...next time we tell you that trolling Jezebel is a bad idea, take our word for it, huh? You've been around long enough to have seen prior instances of all this happening. #oppositelock
When the lights go down in the city,
And the sun shines on the bay,
Fuck yes I want that car #oppositelock
And the sun shines on the bay,
Fuck yes I want that car #oppositelock
By a non-gawker-affiliated commenter. But he created his account on, and was starred by, Jalopnik.
Work on the reading comprehension. #oppositelock
I can explain that, actually.
That means that a high-level Gawker moderator found which Gawker site his account was created on and banned it from that site in particular to demonstrate that it sucks to have your site ruined for you in much the same way that it sucks that Jezebelers had their site ruined for them for the day by excessive trolling. #oppositelock
