We kick off our World Series coverage in the first place many of you will be looking: The arena of gambling. We tend to think this series as rather tight, hardly some obvious mismatch ... but it appears Vegas disagrees.
Turns out, if you have faith in the Rockies — you know, like God! — there's money to be made.
5Dimes has Colorado winning Game 1 by 7 or more runs at 22:1. And The Greek has a Rockies sweep at 25:1. I know they're not as good as the Red Sox, but they have won 21 of 22. Over their last 22 games, they've had a 11 game win streak and their current 10 game streak. The odds are obviously stacked against a Colorado sweep, but they've been defying logic for awhile now.
As you know, we're not heavy gamblers here, but seriously now: Layoff or not, the Rockies have won 22 of their last 23 games. Should they be this much of an underdog?
Inside Vegas: World Series Edition [Vegas Watch]









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I have some fear of the underdog. That's why I will survive.
Odds on J.D. Drew winning the Series MVP are only 15:1. You have to jump on that.
(tries to keep straight face)
@Camp Tiger Claw: Got yr. cherry bomb?
How cute, Leitch is handicapping.
5Dimes? The Greek?
I only care what Stu Feiner thinks. Thank you.
"They have a team" > Douchebag Nation
@Big Daddy Drew: Don't you evah make semi-obscure hipster references like that.
I got odds that McCarver will have an aneurysm because of Manny not running hard at 3:1
@Camp Tiger Claw: Seriously. I feel like Vegas is making a target out of the Rockies.
Don't make them a target. Don't make them a target...
@Big Daddy Drew: @Rob Iracane: I just hope that Beckett takes care of me tonight.
Wait. Scratch that.
I fear the underdog too, but what really scares me is that Hong Kong Phooey.
@Rob Iracane:
You have brought dishonor to this board. Matsuzaka will whoop you with his little japanese cigarette case.
What's the line that the J.D. Drew's devout christianity loses out to the Rockies' devout Christianity?
Furthermore, what are the odds that a columnist calls him 'Nancy' during the series?
McCarver's cousin, Tim, is telling us to bet heavily on the Rockies. He claims the officiating crew is full of born-again Christians.
What are the odds that Joe Buck actually says "jub jub" tonight? I will be listening closely.
The Pats will cover.
Oh, wait. wrong sport.
@Matt_T: they'll cover 16.5 this week? i'm wary...
Baseball is still playing? So will Manny become Mr. November?
Rule No. 1 of Gambling: The Vegas casinos are smarter than you are. Never doubt that they know exactly what they're doing.
Odds I'll be drunk for most of the games? Even.
Is there exacta, trifecta, and quinella wagering on the MVP ?
Is 25:1 odds on a sweep really making them an underdog? All that's saying is that the team with the best record in baseball will probably win ONE game against a team that, aside from its current hot streak, was basically a .500 club this year. I think there's a pretty darn good chance the Sox win one game.
"They have won 21 of 22. Over their last 22 games, they've had a 11 game win streak and their current 10 game streak."
-ParlayPaul3452
If only there were some self-styled expert on gambling and, heck, just one of these teams we could turn to...
Your Earth math confuses me.
Odds that Larry King's hair makes it into tonights broadcast: Not good enough
Odds that McCarver doesn't say something mind-bogglingly stupid: 8,000,000:1
And that would be a sad waste of a buck.
5:1 odds that Clint Hurdle's jaw finally pops from chewing the same wad of gum for 15 years.
However, the odds remain very good that betting on baseball is fucking retarded.
What's the line on the meteor, 'cause that's what I'd like to set a few dimes on.
It's not really a threadjack if it's about a Red Sock, but today's Dugout is awesome.
MannyTheTorpedoes: whats a migrowave
ohhhh you mean the food tv
@Camp Tiger Claw:
Underdog? HA!! I only fear Mad Dog (20/20).
Hell, just a straight series win is +200 at WSEX. How on earth am I supposed to not bet on that?
And after the series is over, they'll cast lots for the series MVP.
@ghostsoftheSCupcountry: Hindsight is never 20/20 when it comes to Mad Dog.
What were the preseason lines on the Rockies winning the WS?
@Nationalcoholic: Sadly, that's what I recall from college. What I remember of it, anyway.
@44 in a Row: Soooo tempting. I'm holding off til after Game 1. If Beckett wins you should be able to get around +240 or so on the Rockies.
@supermike4ever: Still available at 16.0 at WSEX.
Soooo tempting. I'm holding off til after Game 1. If Beckett wins you should be able to get around +240 or so on the Rockies.
How does that work, though? I've actually never dealt with a series bet before; it'll still be available after the first game? Or does it close once the series starts? I'm also kind of nervous that if it Rockies do pull it off tonight, it'll make it much, much harder to get any decent odds.
Rule No. 1 of Gambling: The Vegas casinos are smarter than you are. Never doubt that they know exactly what they're doing.
The Vegas casinos are smarter than the average person. And when it comes to huge events like the World Series or the Super Bowl, the average person is generally very, very dumb when it comes to gambling. Especially when a team with a rabid fan base like the Red Sox is involved.
@44 in a Row: Depends on who your action is with. WSEX typically keeps the series lines up til the third or fourth game (though obviously closed during game play and adjusted shortly after each game ends). As far as the Rockies winning Game 1, yeah, your odds are screwed betting the Rockies if that happens. Up 1-0 they probably go off at around +130 or so, depending on how heavy the Boston handle is.
@44 in a Row: Also, you are dead-on about gambling. I'm not betting against the Casino but against the general public. There's a reason Caesars comps me for my play at the Craps table but not for my bets at the Sports Book.
@Chief Wahoo: If I were alledgedly gambling, which I'm not. Ever. Swear.
Also, Wahoo, I don't totally understand how this feature works (although I've always wanted to try), but the WSEX long-term market for the World Series has the Rockies at a buy price of $32 (pays out $100 for a win), which should be +212 if their math is accurate.
@44 in a Row:
They reset the series line after every game. BTW, +240 Rockies if Red Sox win game 1 seems low. Which I suppose is good, if that's when you want to hit on Colo.
The Vegas casinos are smarter than the average person. And when it comes to huge events like the World Series or the Super Bowl, the average person is generally very, very dumb when it comes to gambling.
True enough. But there's a lot of non-dumb money in Vegas for the bigger pools, (e.g. NBA playoffs, every NFL game, major bowls). For those the lines are where they should be for the most part.
But I'm with Shea. I'd rather bet on cockroach races than MLB. Though I'm a nit.
On gambling...I've bet on soccer over in Europe (they have little kiosks, so you can place your bet on who scores first without leaving the stadium!), but here in the States...not so much. I'm just not that much a fan of point spreads, which are the preferred method of betting over here as opposed to the easier (and much more potentially lucrative) odds over in the Old Country.
I'm just not that much a fan of point spreads, which are the preferred method of betting over here as opposed to the easier (and much more potentially lucrative) odds over in the Old Country.
It just depends on the sport. Football and basketball are generally point spread, but for baseball and hockey money-lines are often more popular.
@44 in a Row: Yeah, I've avoided their "markets" feature. WSEX is formed by a bunch of former securities traders and that feature is based on a similar model. If I wanted to do that much math I'd go be a securities trader. I stick to the old-fashioned wagers which I fully understand.
For example, the average person thinks that Vegas tries to "equalize money on both sides and then just take the vig risk free"
Suckers.
@44 in a Row: You're quite right, now that I think about it.
Plus, with basketball you get to watch a large section of the crowd (especially at Knicks games, but I'm not stereotyping here) groan when the spread is affected late in the game.
@44 in a Row:
And after the series is over, they'll cast lots for the series MVP.
I'm in for thirty pieces of silver.
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