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    At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind

    Your Academic Champ: Bucknell
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    Image of Jack Clark Griswold Jack Clark Griswold
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Let's admit marginally qualified students to the university (all D-1A schools do it, even ND, Duke, Stanford et al.), build huge stadiums for them, require them to train in opulent weight rooms and practice facilities to enhance their ability to compete athletically, and then bitch about giving them a nice, comfortable place to do their academic work in the presence of counselors whose help was promised them and their parents during the recruiting process. Yeah -- that sounds about right.
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    12/05/08

    @Jack Clark Griswold: Way to miss the point; said point being that while that's all well and good for the athletes getting a free ride has access to these facilities, the kid busting his ass to just scrape by doesn't. Universities don't exist to fund the Zook water skiing fund they exist to educate students; and when you wall off academic services to any student they you're failing your core mission.
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    Image of J-No J-No
    12/05/08

    @Hank Scorpio-Steinbrenner: I thought universities existed to turn us into binge drinkers?
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    Image of Weed Against Speed Weed Against Speed
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Back issues of Highlights for Children as far as the eye can see!
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    Image of White Speed Receiver White Speed Receiver
    12/05/08

    @Weed Against Speed: Ranger Rick for science majors.
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    Image of Artie Fufkin Artie Fufkin
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Mr. Sack is forgetting that atheletes are dum.
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    Image of UkraineNotWeak UkraineNotWeak
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Somewhere, deep in the bowels of New York Magazine, a primal scream is let out as one Will Leitch remembers the torment he endured as a so called journalism nerd on the campus of UI.
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    Image of Mr. Praline Mr. Praline
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Whoa, what just happened to the site design? All I see is cute flames and speech bubbles! I FEAR CHANGE!
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    Image of lempha lempha
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Harvard's endowment took a 30% hit and is still $22 billion. Most of it comes Squash-team related revenue, I'm pretty sure.
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    Image of UpstateUnderdog UpstateUnderdog
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    the frat brothers over at Lambda Lambda Lambda must be pissed
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    Image of Jews For Purple Jesus Jews For Purple Jesus
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Computer labs and classrooms, schedule sessions with tutors, but can one really learn how to piss intensity at such a fine establishment?
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    Image of dont-forget-where-you-came-from-cheese mac dont-forget-where-you-came-from-cheese mac
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    The real shame is that they won't even let Dee Brown panhandle there anymore.
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    Image of Steve U Steve U
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Am I the only one who doesn't see a problem here? The athletes generate massive amounts of revenue. Schools are spending a small fraction of that revenue to help their athletes, the vast majority of whom will not go pro, actually get something out of college. What's not to like?
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    Image of Matt_T Matt_T
    12/05/08

    @Steve_U: Nope. That's what I was getting at.


    And at my alma mater, the athlete budget also paid for us band nerds to go to games.

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    Image of twoeightnine twoeightnine
    12/05/08

    Yes, because all money comes only from sports. I mean T. Boone Pickens not only played basketball, football and baseball but squash and tiddlywinks too.
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    Image of The Sports Hernia The Sports Hernia
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    But this is how Omar Epps boinked Halle Berry.
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    Image of Matt_T Matt_T
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Once the nerds start bringing in millions of revenue in for the University they can start using the academic centers.
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    Image of Unknown Commenter Unknown Commenter
    12/05/08

    @Matt_T: These guys would like a word with you.


    [en.wikipedia.org]

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    Image of Browns(+69) @ Braves Browns(+69) @ Braves
    12/05/08

    @Matt_T: And what position did you play?
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    Image of Steve U Steve U
    12/05/08

    @Hank Scorpio-Steinbrenner:


    1) How much of the substantive work in that lab is being done by undergrads?


    2) If an undergrad is working in that lab, do you really think he needs special academic tutoring facilities?

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    Image of Matt_T Matt_T
    12/05/08

    @Browns(+69) @ Braves: Actually I was in the band.


    And the athletic association paid for our trips.

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    Image of MeSoHornsby MeSoHornsby
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    A recently opened wide receivers-only wing simulates a club and provides training on proper handgun safety.
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    Image of 12-Inch Idongivafuck Sandwich 12-Inch Idongivafuck Sandwich
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    Those athletes need all the learnin they can get! Just like they need all the steak and lobster they can get from the athlete food courts!
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    Image of the earl of weaver the earl of weaver
    12/05/08

    In reply to At Illinois, No Jock Left Behind
    I see the point. After spending all that booster money on PS3 games, who has anything left over to afford a tutor?
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