<![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny - Deadspin Comments]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny - Deadspin Comments]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> if the end result of this investigation is freddie mitchell returning to philly for a belated super bowl parade I'm all for it

Mr. Pennsylvania

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @BigTenObsession:

now you're just talking about supervillany. how about we talk about the time that robert kraft made an entire city cluck like a chicken, just because he could.

hi_im_the_rog

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @BigTenObsession: Actually, the other teams aren't accusing the Patriots of cutting the headsets. (Not all of them are radios -- some are actually hard-wired.) That would be a very strong accusation, and they'd probably be subject to sanctions/penalties if they didn't have some sort of proof. What they are saying is that the headsets went out during long drives.... and let the overall "situation" right now lead you to their desired conclusion.

But leaving that aside... it's something that should be looked into. However, the headsets often crap out, because it's either hard-wired sets that involve 200' of cable being stepped on constantly, or it's wireless tech that's basically the same technology as your cellphone. And we all know how reliable cellphones are. So these outages could be normal, expected outages; it's just that since they occured at inopportune times, they're remembered better. For instance, maybe the headsets went out 14 times in that game, but most of the time it was during breaks in the action, hence nobody on the coaching staff remembers it. If that was the case, it looks way less like some kind of sinister plot, and more like crappy equipment.

A Pimp Named DaveR

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @GiselleBeardchen: no respect...

the players aren't going to like the lack of respect being shown them right now.

supermike4ever

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> 3 Rings*

GiselleBeardchen

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Isn't the biggest loser in all of this spygate stuff really the Jets fan who has to live with the fact that they've likely hired a coach in Ratgini who owes some of his status to spying, but when given the opportunity to do his own spying the best he can come up with is to run to Daddy and tattle on what his old friends are doing now that he doesn't get to share in the rewards anymore?

Planet Killer

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @BigTenObsession:

what about donovan mcnabb reporting that the tampon dispenser at gillette didn't have his required extra-wide tampons stocked? two year suspension.

(hehe sorry for the lame mcnabbs-a-girl joke. please don't flag me)

supermike4ever

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Me and Willie McGee: clearly, this is what g.w. bush meant as the "decisive ideological struggle of the 21st century and the calling of our generation"

alot riding on that patriot front 7!

supermike4ever

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Maybe videotaping signals is a more advanced form of what could be accomplished by simply having a guy with binoculars watching the opposing coach. Okay. What about 2 different teams now claiming that their radio signal to the field was cut at crucial times during games while playing the Pats? That is absolutely cheating, and directly affects the game at a crucial juncture. If that's true, then Belichick should be suspended for the year.

BigTenObsession

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Dave Ryan: Dead on. I don't think Patriots cheating contributed to the Rams running all over them in the second half of Super Bowl XXXVI.

Vinatieri did, however, kick a juiced ball.

thetaxman

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> should we really be surprised that Philadelphia is crying like a bunch of little girls? i wonder if Belichick was taping McNabb as he ralphed his brains out

Upshaws Leash

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> If I'm Wade Wilson, I mail a box of my own shit to Roger Goodell. And I don't use FedEx, the official sponsor of the NFL. I DHL that motherfucker.

Doxidan, Gentle Doxidan

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> "We'll see what happens on Sunday"

So if the Pats beat the Chargers that validates eveything they've won but if they lose it means they cheated their way to three Super Bowls? Big game.....

Me and Willie McGee

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Dave Ryan: Nice analysis. Too bad it'll get lost in the dogpile to hate on the Patriots, but I SAY GOOD.

King of Pants

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Dave Ryan: "Goodell is, by this penalty, basically telling the wealthy teams "If we don't specifically say you can use something that isn't readily available and non-costly for all teams, we're going to smack you down hard.""

(sorry to reply to you twice, but..) Actually, Goodell is saying "If we specifically say in the rules you CAN'T do something, and we stress said rule prior to the season, then don't be so STUPID and break that rule anyway!"

Count Rugen's Sixth Finger

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Dave Ryan: "But the league teams, as a collective, rejected that -- because they cost a lot of money."

Well, the Pats voted against it cause it would've meant they couldn't cheat anymore. The other teams, yeah, hundreds of thousands they're saying (which doesn't make sense to me, but who am I....)

Count Rugen's Sixth Finger

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> sideline photo discredited: [www.coldhardfootballfacts.com]

indeed, turns out camera-guy in the [touchdown.org] photo was a JETS EMPLOYEE!!!

here is the same guy, Jets employee: [i40.photobucket.com]

CHEATERS!!!!

supermike4ever

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Can somebody count how many times belicheck said chargers during his press conference today,im guessing 25. It was really his answer to every question.

chai1108

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> does this whole thing remind anyone else of being caught with Physics Crib notes in a Chemistry Exam? they Look like they could help you, but they really can't, and you were stupid to have even TRIED to use them in the first place.

I said it yesterday, patriots were stupid, got caught, got the proper punishment (it's on par with the 1995 Broncos' salary cap punishment.) but lets stop with the CHEATERS claims here.

The level of discourse on this subject has been depressingly low. It reminds me of people talking about steroids

i.e.

Sportstalkguy on steroids: sturrroooidzzz are magical MUSCLE CREAM!!! you put it on your body and HIT HOME RUNS!!!

Sportstalkguy on Patriots Spying: thissssss meanssss that the patriots probably have been cheating for yeeeaaaarrzzzzzzz.

Unfortunately for everyone who wants to get real information (such as, the fact that the patriots were caught after less than 1 quarter, the fact that even if they had tape of coaches giving signals, defenses usually have 1 or more "dummy" signallers and only the Defensive captain knows the call, so even if you taped 60 plays, it would only help with 2 or 3 tops.) everyone seems to just regurgitate whatever is spoken the loudest.

We'll see what happens on Sunday.

hi_im_the_rog

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Lady Andrea:
I thought we were all playing a giant game of capture the flag and I hit it on everyone. I guess I didn't win.

bizzo5000

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Click to follow yourself. It'll, like, blow your mind, man.

LeNoceur

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> But....Jim Haslett did HGH in the middle of a play during a Steelers game. And he killed a guy. With a ninja star.

bizzo5000

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @mannybeingmanny: Bill actually played the Orbital Mind Control Lasers card, enabling him to take over both the Republican Party and the Fiendish Fluoridators.

/inwo

King of Pants

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> ... and I pray Nibbles, LLC (the corporate entity that manages comments) doesn't eat that post I made.

Also, I'm almost as big of an Eagles fan as I am a Pats fan. Donovan: you lost the Super Bowl because you were the lesser team, and because you stunk in the first half. If the "cheating" benefitted the Pats, it would have benefitted them in the second half, when you ran roughshod over them. Sorry, bro -- we lost fair and square.

A Pimp Named DaveR

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> If you have Insider on WWL, Jeremy Green makes basically the same point I did the other day when this whole thing broke: this isn't "cheating" so much as an illegal form of scouting.

Also, I think most people (i.e. pretty much everyone) are missing why Goodell came down so hard here. It's got nothing to do with the "integrity" of the game, or cheating -- it's all about preventing a technological cold war in scouting/game day analysis in the NFL. All of these dubious signal-stealing tactics have been around for ages, and have been practiced by virtually every team. The perceived "cheating" here could have been fixed with defensive radio helmets, just like the QB radios. But the league teams, as a collective, rejected that -- because they cost a lot of money.

What Goodell wants -- and has -- to avoid is a situation where some teams -- the Jets/Giants, Cowboys, Pats, Bears, etc. -- can gain a competitive advantage due to their relative wealth; an advantage the Bills, Packers, et al. can't because they're smaller-market, lower-revenue teams. That's basically what the Pats were doing here: they were scouting their opponent using technology (which is basically using money) in a way that could be done (competely legally) the "old fashioned" way with binoculars and notepads, but which is much more effective and efficient when done with that technology.

Goodell is, by this penalty, basically telling the wealthy teams "If we don't specifically say you can use something that isn't readily available and non-costly for all teams, we're going to smack you down hard." I think this is an issue of much bigger importance for the NFL long-term than whatever the Pats were doing, and it's being lost in the stampede by the media to shit all over the Pats. (Which probably has a lot to do with the media hating BB in particular, because he keeps a tight house and doesn't feed them juicy stories.)

A Pimp Named DaveR

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @J-No: I almost clicked on it by accident like 3 times now. Poor Rob.

Lady Andrea

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @G Voll the Mole:

Answering rhetorical joke questions - well, hell - I can do that.

According to Dr. Michael Stone - stalking is caused by part of the brain that is broken. Most Evil was about stalking and stalkers last night. (Most of the stalkers got a 6 on the scale of evil.) I'll crawl back into my morbid obsession nerd-hole now.

Im a people person. Who drinks.

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> What's half a mil/don't they know my name is Bill?

Belichick/to get at them trophy's I'll gladly peel a check.

- Future rhyme from Lil' Wayne

Stet Sports Blog

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> "Flag: Report inappropriate comment"

Nothing good can possibly come of this.

Better punishment for Coach B? You must now wear a three piece suit for the remainder of the season. Probably hurt him more.

Senators Lost Cojones

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Why is nobody following me????

bizzo5000

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> you know... all this talk about the patriots have to cheat to win, teams bringing up past games that the pats must have cheated in, pats can't win without being devious and sneaky and all that...

you know what that all means...

THE PATRIOTS GET NO RESPECT!!!

(i am now fully convinced that belichick orchestrated this whole thing on purpose to gin up the no respect thing that was lacking this year.)

supermike4ever

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Where are the boundaries for Flagging a comment on Deadspin? Good God this is going to get ugly.

J-No

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Belichick's punishment should be that he has to wear a spiffy suit on the sidelines like Jack Del Rio. A lifetime ban on "homeless person" ponchos!

ToTheMoonAlice

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Hey now the patriot players have a no respect card to play this year... No one respects us because they think our coaches cheated. I feel bad for the "classy" LDT this weekend.

mannybeingmanny

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> The only people that retain the right to feel robbed are the 2001 Raiders. And this is coming from a Broncos fan.

UNC_Samurai

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @sjc: and Bill totally forced the eagles into keeping the great freddie mitchell.

mannybeingmanny

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Lady Andrea: I wanted you to know that I did not hit "follow commenter" to follow you. It was purely coincidental and has nothing to do with the fact that I am RIGHT BEHIND YOU! seriously, look behind you.

Bad Barbecue

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Once you begin to stalk, can you ever stop?

G Voll the Mole

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> The DOT can be criticized for many things in many cities. But they do know to do construction on major highways at night.

Just sayin'.

Bad Barbecue

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Nationalcoholic: I can remove you? YES!

@Sex-Panther: me too, Sex Panther. Me too.

Lady Andrea

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @mannybeingmanny: Well, that's totally because Belicheck put soap in his Chunky Soup. That's how low he'll sink. But to be fair, then McNabb didn't have to pull that bombing run over Bologna.

King of Pants

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Nationalcoholic: I understand the difference between cheating and bending the rules, but I have heard this compared directly to steroid/HGH use. If you take the black/white view of cheating, then offensive linemen should be suspended 4 games when they are called for holding.

Donald_Igwebuike

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Botswana Meat Commission FC: It's almost as if i wrote that headline.

UpstateUnderdog

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I now have a remove commenter button? holy shit. I missed the ceremony but I am now God of this site. I must have lost a bet to Iracane.

Bad Barbecue

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @mannybeingmanny: I bet Belicheck has that on tape.

Donald_Igwebuike

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @ArkansasFred: Very Neil Diamond-eque.

You know all this talk of cheating and intercepting defensive signals - I just don't know how that really affects the game that much. I'm sure most coaching staffs try to outwit the opposing team and take notes of trends, hand signs, etc. Even if you know what the other team is doing, talent can still negate that. It's just like Tecmo Bowl!!!

CharlesBronsonPinchot

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Bad Barbecue:
I'm trying to follow numerous commenters, but they keep going through yellow lights.

Botswana Meat Commission FC

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Ohhhhh....a guy on a "blog" say he was treated fairly. I'll withhold my opinion until Jay Marriotti and Woody Paige give me their fair and balanced views, thank you very much.

Arriaga_II

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> If [insert commenter name] jumped off the Brooklyn Bridge, would you follow them?

Weed Against Speed

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Donald_Igwebuike: It's not bad because of the huge advantage, it's bad because it's against the rules. The difference you described is one between gaining an edge within the rules, and going outside them. One is called coaching, the other is called cheating.

Follow Commenter? What the deuce?

Nationalcoholic

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I won't accept any legal analysis unless it's from Bob Loblaw's Law Blog.

Peter Cavan

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Bad Barbecue: I don't wear a lot of skirts, and when I do, I don't take the stairs. Who am I kidding, I never take the stairs, fucking gravity.

Donald_Igwebuike

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Eagles recall smell of vomit and vrable catching a td from super bowl loss to Patriots

on the contrary, i think this story IS going away soon...

supermike4ever

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @PeteJäyhawk™: I fear for Andrea's safety...

PHONICS wif Emmitt Smiff

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @PeteJäyhawk™: I like how the "reply" button is buried in there so I will continually hit the stalk button on accident.

Donald_Igwebuike

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @Donald_Igwebuike: I'm now following you. Just to let you know.

Bad Barbecue

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> maybe if mcnabb wasnt throwing up the last 7 minutes of the super bowl his team may have actually won.

mannybeingmanny

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> @PeteJäyhawk™: I am so stealing your defensive formation signs from now on.

ArkansasFred

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I think Belichick is intercepting Nibbles' signs to the interwebs and re-routing them.

Botswana Meat Commission FC

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Gotta love this Yahoo McNews sports headline:

Eagles try and recall anything fishy about Super Bowl loss to Patriots

Not only does it sound like an Onion headline, but that's some jacked up grammar right there.

Botswana Meat Commission FC

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I think Simmons should have his right hand cut off...oh wait, this isn't Pats article isn't about Simmons?

theslacker

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Yeah, I should have every right to stand under a stair case and videotape upskirt. What? I do?

Still sleazy.

Bad Barbecue

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Hey, great! There's a "stalk" option and a "flag" option now! This is a great idea! Yeah!

Pete Gaines

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I guess in Roger's eyes, an assistant coach taking some HgH for his diabetes related impotence is a bigger threat to the integrity of the game than a high profile head coach blatantly and repeatedly cheating after being specifically warned about it.

He's tough on those big, bad football players but when it comes down to it, Ol' Rog is nothing but a shill for management.

Oh, and Dick Joke.

Da_Mang

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Yet another OJ story

[news.yahoo.com]

DM

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> So am I to understand that Wilbon wants this to end with a tri-pod to the face, like it did for Bob Crane?

Donald_Igwebuike

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> That was actually a very catchy song.

ArkansasFred

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I think New England should get the death penalty, like SMU got a few years back.

No actually, I like the other death penalty better. Start with Belichick.

Dead Wrestlers Society

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> If it's really that serious and a threat to the integrity of competition, don't you at least suspend Coach Hobo for a game or two?

It should have been a first round draft pick regardless of whether they make the playoffs or not.

Signal to Noise

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> Soon, 40 year old doods taking pictures of cheerleaders will be considered cheating. Wait, I think that was Bring It On, or something.

PoppaPerk

]]> <![CDATA[Belichick Is So Grounded It's Not Even Funny]]> I don't at all see how video taping something that you can see without special equipment is cheating. If they just have someone in the coaches box with binoculars watching the sideline they accomplish the same thing. Fox video tapes the sidelines of every game, if we get the feed off the Fox camera, is that cheating?

Donald_Igwebuike

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