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The Rockies Could Make Some Folks Some Cash

Philistine — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 13:53:32 EDT

@44 in a Row:

And after the series is over, they'll cast lots for the series MVP.

I'm in for thirty pieces of silver.

Philistine

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Turd Ferguson — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:37:09 EDT

@44 in a Row: You're quite right, now that I think about it.

Plus, with basketball you get to watch a large section of the crowd (especially at Knicks games, but I'm not stereotyping here) groan when the spread is affected late in the game.

Turd Ferguson

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Dread — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:27:28 EDT

For example, the average person thinks that Vegas tries to "equalize money on both sides and then just take the vig risk free"

Suckers.

Dread

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Chief Wahoo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:26:31 EDT

@44 in a Row: Yeah, I've avoided their "markets" feature. WSEX is formed by a bunch of former securities traders and that feature is based on a similar model. If I wanted to do that much math I'd go be a securities trader. I stick to the old-fashioned wagers which I fully understand.

Chief Wahoo

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44 in a Row — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:26:21 EDT

I'm just not that much a fan of point spreads, which are the preferred method of betting over here as opposed to the easier (and much more potentially lucrative) odds over in the Old Country.

It just depends on the sport. Football and basketball are generally point spread, but for baseball and hockey money-lines are often more popular.

44 in a Row

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Turd Ferguson — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:24:34 EDT

On gambling...I've bet on soccer over in Europe (they have little kiosks, so you can place your bet on who scores first without leaving the stadium!), but here in the States...not so much. I'm just not that much a fan of point spreads, which are the preferred method of betting over here as opposed to the easier (and much more potentially lucrative) odds over in the Old Country.

Turd Ferguson

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Rozelle’s Bagman — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:21:47 EDT

@44 in a Row:

They reset the series line after every game. BTW, +240 Rockies if Red Sox win game 1 seems low. Which I suppose is good, if that's when you want to hit on Colo.

The Vegas casinos are smarter than the average person. And when it comes to huge events like the World Series or the Super Bowl, the average person is generally very, very dumb when it comes to gambling.

True enough. But there's a lot of non-dumb money in Vegas for the bigger pools, (e.g. NBA playoffs, every NFL game, major bowls). For those the lines are where they should be for the most part.

But I'm with Shea. I'd rather bet on cockroach races than MLB. Though I'm a nit.

Rozelle’s Bagman

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44 in a Row — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:16:56 EDT

Also, Wahoo, I don't totally understand how this feature works (although I've always wanted to try), but the WSEX long-term market for the World Series has the Rockies at a buy price of $32 (pays out $100 for a win), which should be +212 if their math is accurate.

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Chief Wahoo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:12:11 EDT

@Chief Wahoo: If I were alledgedly gambling, which I'm not. Ever. Swear.

Chief Wahoo

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Chief Wahoo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:11:23 EDT

@44 in a Row: Also, you are dead-on about gambling. I'm not betting against the Casino but against the general public. There's a reason Caesars comps me for my play at the Craps table but not for my bets at the Sports Book.

Chief Wahoo

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Chief Wahoo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 12:09:37 EDT

@44 in a Row: Depends on who your action is with. WSEX typically keeps the series lines up til the third or fourth game (though obviously closed during game play and adjusted shortly after each game ends). As far as the Rockies winning Game 1, yeah, your odds are screwed betting the Rockies if that happens. Up 1-0 they probably go off at around +130 or so, depending on how heavy the Boston handle is.

Chief Wahoo

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44 in a Row — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:59:59 EDT

Soooo tempting. I'm holding off til after Game 1. If Beckett wins you should be able to get around +240 or so on the Rockies.

How does that work, though? I've actually never dealt with a series bet before; it'll still be available after the first game? Or does it close once the series starts? I'm also kind of nervous that if it Rockies do pull it off tonight, it'll make it much, much harder to get any decent odds.

Rule No. 1 of Gambling: The Vegas casinos are smarter than you are. Never doubt that they know exactly what they're doing.

The Vegas casinos are smarter than the average person. And when it comes to huge events like the World Series or the Super Bowl, the average person is generally very, very dumb when it comes to gambling. Especially when a team with a rabid fan base like the Red Sox is involved.

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Chief Wahoo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:53:22 EDT

@supermike4ever: Still available at 16.0 at WSEX.

Chief Wahoo

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Chief Wahoo — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:52:40 EDT

@44 in a Row: Soooo tempting. I'm holding off til after Game 1. If Beckett wins you should be able to get around +240 or so on the Rockies.

Chief Wahoo

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ghostsoftheSCupcountry — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:51:41 EDT

@Nationalcoholic: Sadly, that's what I recall from college. What I remember of it, anyway.

ghostsoftheSCupcountry

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Artie Fufkin — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:51:01 EDT

What were the preseason lines on the Rockies winning the WS?

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Nationalcoholic — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:50:19 EDT

@ghostsoftheSCupcountry: Hindsight is never 20/20 when it comes to Mad Dog.

Nationalcoholic

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44 in a Row — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:48:32 EDT

And after the series is over, they'll cast lots for the series MVP.

44 in a Row

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44 in a Row — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:42:22 EDT

Hell, just a straight series win is +200 at WSEX. How on earth am I supposed to not bet on that?

44 in a Row

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ghostsoftheSCupcountry — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:39:52 EDT

@Camp Tiger Claw:
Underdog? HA!! I only fear Mad Dog (20/20).

ghostsoftheSCupcountry

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Clare — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:38:45 EDT

It's not really a threadjack if it's about a Red Sock, but today's Dugout is awesome.

MannyTheTorpedoes: whats a migrowave

ohhhh you mean the food tv

Clare

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Clare — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:31:09 EDT

What's the line on the meteor, 'cause that's what I'd like to set a few dimes on.

Clare

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shea_guevara — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:25:28 EDT

However, the odds remain very good that betting on baseball is fucking retarded.

shea_guevara

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ScottyF311 — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:25:18 EDT

5:1 odds that Clint Hurdle's jaw finally pops from chewing the same wad of gum for 15 years.

ScottyF311

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StuScott Booyahs — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:25:11 EDT

Odds that McCarver doesn't say something mind-bogglingly stupid: 8,000,000:1

And that would be a sad waste of a buck.

StuScott Booyahs

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emjayelle — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:22:04 EDT

Odds that Larry King's hair makes it into tonights broadcast: Not good enough

emjayelle

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King of Pants — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:18:24 EDT

Your Earth math confuses me.

King of Pants

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ClownForPound — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:18:14 EDT

If only there were some self-styled expert on gambling and, heck, just one of these teams we could turn to...

ClownForPound

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Sandy Magic Jackson — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:14:37 EDT

"They have won 21 of 22. Over their last 22 games, they've had a 11 game win streak and their current 10 game streak."
-ParlayPaul3452

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Windier E. Megatons — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:14:09 EDT

Is 25:1 odds on a sweep really making them an underdog? All that's saying is that the team with the best record in baseball will probably win ONE game against a team that, aside from its current hot streak, was basically a .500 club this year. I think there's a pretty darn good chance the Sox win one game.

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UpstateUnderdog — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:14:04 EDT

Is there exacta, trifecta, and quinella wagering on the MVP ?

UpstateUnderdog

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MitchKayak — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:13:38 EDT

Odds I'll be drunk for most of the games? Even.

MitchKayak

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Nately — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:12:48 EDT

Rule No. 1 of Gambling: The Vegas casinos are smarter than you are. Never doubt that they know exactly what they're doing.

Nately

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Triple B — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:12:46 EDT

Baseball is still playing? So will Manny become Mr. November?

Triple B

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supermike4ever — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:11:54 EDT

@Matt_T: they'll cover 16.5 this week? i'm wary...

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Matt_T — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:08:39 EDT

The Pats will cover.

Oh, wait. wrong sport.

Matt_T

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Doctor Acula — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:07:57 EDT

What are the odds that Joe Buck actually says "jub jub" tonight? I will be listening closely.

Doctor Acula

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Brazil Thrill — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:07:05 EDT

McCarver's cousin, Tim, is telling us to bet heavily on the Rockies. He claims the officiating crew is full of born-again Christians.

Brazil Thrill

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Adonis — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:06:48 EDT

What's the line that the J.D. Drew's devout christianity loses out to the Rockies' devout Christianity?

Furthermore, what are the odds that a columnist calls him 'Nancy' during the series?

Adonis

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Charles — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:05:01 EDT

@Rob Iracane:

You have brought dishonor to this board. Matsuzaka will whoop you with his little japanese cigarette case.

Charles

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StinkyCat — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:02:26 EDT

I fear the underdog too, but what really scares me is that Hong Kong Phooey.

StinkyCat

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Camp Tiger Claw — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:02:05 EDT

@Big Daddy Drew: @Rob Iracane: I just hope that Beckett takes care of me tonight.

Wait. Scratch that.

Camp Tiger Claw

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Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:01:25 EDT

@Camp Tiger Claw: Seriously. I feel like Vegas is making a target out of the Rockies.

Don't make them a target. Don't make them a target...

Charlie Kerfelds Jetsons Tee

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throwbot — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 11:01:22 EDT

I got odds that McCarver will have an aneurysm because of Manny not running hard at 3:1

throwbot

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Rob Iracane — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:59:32 EDT

@Big Daddy Drew: Don't you evah make semi-obscure hipster references like that.

Rob Iracane

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Dr. Spaceman, Esq. — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:58:08 EDT

"They have a team" > Douchebag Nation

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SensitiveThug — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:57:25 EDT

5Dimes? The Greek?

I only care what Stu Feiner thinks. Thank you.

SensitiveThug

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Rozelle’s Bagman — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:54:55 EDT

How cute, Leitch is handicapping.

Rozelle’s Bagman

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Drew Magary — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:54:09 EDT

@Camp Tiger Claw: Got yr. cherry bomb?

Drew Magary

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Dead Wrestlers Society — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:54:03 EDT

Odds on J.D. Drew winning the Series MVP are only 15:1. You have to jump on that.

(tries to keep straight face)

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Camp Tiger Claw — Wed, 24 Oct 2007 10:51:28 EDT

I have some fear of the underdog. That's why I will survive.

Camp Tiger Claw