On Sunday, Panthers QB Cam Newton said referee Ed Hochuli told him he didn’t get a call on a late hit because he wasn’t “old enough.” Hochuli denied it, and video of the conversation between the two appeared to show the ref telling Newton he didn’t get a flag because he was running outside the pocket.

At his press conference today, Newton made very clear what he thinks Hochuli’s denial is worth:

Both Newton and Ron Rivera said it’s over and the issue is dead. They’re right, it is over because the NFL said there were no microphones near the discussion and there’s no way to prove what was said—though, again, amateur lipreading looks like it backs up Hochuli’s version of events.