In case you haven't heard it, here's the exchange on Dan Le Batard's radio show between Le Batard and Jay Bilas. It's possible these two don't like each other very much.
Generally speaking, we think Le Batard is more prone to discuss matters of race in sport than most of his colleagues, something we find commendable. But we kind of agree with Bilas here: We're really not sure what Le Batard's point is supposed to be. If Michael Beasley were white? If Tyler Hansbrough were black? Where you going with this?
That said, Bilas is awfully short fused here; the man's pretty serious for a guy who was in a Dolph Lundgren movie.









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How dare you question Tyler Hansbrough's relentlessness and hustle? He may not be freakishly long or athletic, but he's got a motor! Tremendous upside potential there.
LeBatard doesn't have the motor of a Tyler Hansbrough, who never takes an interview off.
I'll take Bilas. Le Batard is mentally incompetent.
If Steve Nash were black he never would have been named MVP.
He would have been in jail.
My favorite hypothetical situation is "What if Le Betard was never born?".
La Batard: Jay, if Shaq broke into your house and raped your wife, would you be in favor of the death penalty?"
Interesting, because would Le Batard have such prominence in Miami if he weren't Cuban? Or, for that matter, would he make such delicious natillas?
@Doyle McPoyle:
Obviously the terminator hasn't been invented in our lifetime because one of us would have sent it back to kill Dan La Batard.
No matter who is right-er, they're both still intolerable asshats.
But what's Stugotz's opinion?
Coming up next on The Situation Room: What if Barack Obama was a flying tuna monster from the planet Zyrglax? Plus your e-mails and Jack Cafferty.
the man's pretty serious for a guy who was in a Dolph Lundgren movie.
Hey, don't go lumping him in the pile with Drago. Do you know who else was in the movie?
No, seriously, do you? I have no idea.
How could he be confused with 22-10?
Who the hell does LeBatard think he is diminishing Greg Ostertag's pro career?
But I said "With all due respect!"
I think 'tard was saying that teams would feel more comfortable with Hansbrough if he was a White European instead of a White American. And I agree with Bilas--that's stupid.
LeBatard's favourite cartoon character? Bam Bam.
LeBatard's favourite dead wrestler? Bam Bam Bigelow.
LeBatard's favourite reality show? Viva La Bam.
LeBatard's favourite stock on the NYSE? Brookfield Asset Management (BAM).
LeBatard's favourite Iranian city? Bam.
@Vandermint: But teams would be lining up to draft him if he was born in Croatia and named Tylus Hansbrogovic.
Dumb v. Dumber. Meanwhile, next on the Feud...Paige versus Morgan. In a steel cage. The object..walk out the open front door.
Where do I vote for the bear to win?
Everyone's can't miss first rounder, Jason Kaponovich?
Maybe I'm just stupid, but I don't get the whole thing. Owners/companies make offers to who they want to play on their team and how much they want to pay. Players are picked by a team/company and negotiate what they think they should earn. This happens in every company/business And like every other business, some employees exceed expectations and some don't work out. What am I missing here?
LeBatard can't be bothered to actually watch the games so he finds some other aspect to focus on while throwing out some simple statistics.
I think I heard that show before.
He's just so Flounder, can't get past it.
"Le Batard" is French for "the bastard." Is that significant?
Also, I'm with Bilas. That was a stupid line of questioning.
So is the recent two-time MVP just white, or just Canadian? Or is there a difference?
BAM!
The ESPN "personalities" just keep fighting. I'm envisioning a steel cage tag team death match featuring The 'Tard and Feinstein vs Bilas and Katz. It's weeks like this that make me miss Celebrity Deathmatch.
@AppFan: He did say "great white American" a couple times. So obviously Nash is excluded.
@AppFan:
There's a Canadian NBA player? Next thing you'll say is that there are black hockey players or a professional soccer league in North America.
Someone gave Le Batard his own radio show?
@The Sports Hernia: You guys playing cards?
Just watch White Men Can't Jump and all the racial quandries of basketball will be solved.
@Secret Identity: Le Batard's favorite retired NFLer: Bam Morris
Le Batard's favorite former Ohio St. WR: Bam Childress
@Fuck Lion: Would you say he's "LeBatarded?"
If you're arguing a white guy can't be a great NBA player you say, "Can a white college player become a great NBA player?" instead of "Can a white great college player become a great white NBA player?"
I focus on the important things.
@GreatOdensRaven: Brian Benben.
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@My Government Name is Berto, But My Spiritual Name is BRONZ...: Le Batard's all-time favorite MLBer: The Great Bambino
@My Government Name is Berto, But My Spiritual Name is BRONZ...: Don't forget Sam "Bam" Cunningham
@Secret Identity: Favorite Emeril catch-phrase: Bam!
@Secret Identity: Is his fave overhyped running back Bam Morris?
@My Government Name is Berto, But My Spiritual Name is BRONZ...: Sticking with the 'mother's basement' thing, Le Batard is just another example of the lack of originality among sportswriters having ripped that phrase off that overrated fuckwad Emeril.
/dick joke
//secretly admits I really enjoyed the food at his restaurant at MGM.
Jay would much rather talk about a player's great hands or how long he is.
@lisa: There's a real point, here. Hansbrough may be getting more credit than he deserves. I mean, have you seen the half-cocked nonsense shot that he shoots? It's part of the same argument that makes the talking heads praise black players for their "athleticism and length," and white players for their "grit and headsy play." As if white players aren't as talented, and black players can't be smart.
/(shrugs) he'll be nothing in the NBA anyway?
@thesepretzels: Just beat me to it. And far more concise than my mini-rant.
LeBatards's radio show is the only sports radio I can tolerate. No stat talk, no bullshit about "cluch", "momentum", and "team chemistry". Just interviews with 80's wrestlers and stories from Zach Thomas about Larry Izzo taking a dump in a bucket on the sideline during a game. /defense of a guy on the D-spin s-list.
@McCroskey: I wondered the same exact thing...
As much as I tend to agree with the overall opinion of the Deadspin community, I have to disagree here.
I can't listen to the clip here at work, but if it doesn't have the conversation from the rest of the show, it loses something. The question was legite. Stan Van gundy answered it today with no problem, and it turned into an intelligent conversation.
Surprisingly, Le Batard shares the same views and ideas as most of the people on here, as scary as that is.
And umm... dick joke.
@muggsybogues:
So it's really about what "talking heads" say...not about the logic of hiring/firing? Because to me, the simplicity of some people overachieve at the next level and some don't. I guess when I hire somebody, I just be able to predict with certainty who's going to work and who's not. If I had that answer, I guess I'd be in another line of business...like seeing in the future.
I'd say they're both a couple of sunts
@I Party With Hansen: legit*
Shit.
@lisa: I think it's overly simple to pretend that race doesn't exist in a sport with almost entirely white owners, yet athletes who traditionally (minus the 50s, and the current Euro-boom) are black. I'm not saying I agree with anything, but I am saying that Tyler Hansbrough will get that bullshit shot blocked if he tries it on Duncan, Garnett, or Amare, nine times out of ten. Because he's white, maybe it makes him look doofier.
Regardless, there's a discussion here, one I wish people would have instead of plugging their fingers in their ears and flipping off the channel.
@I Party With Hansen: I agree -- Bilas freaked out for, in my opinion, no reason.
//but....perhaps he was late for a blow of the ACC commissioner?
@muggsybogues:
Got it..thanks for explaining...seriously. I understand the unspoken yet truly present racism in words and actions everywhere, not just in sports. Sports just happens to be one of the most visible venues plus that's the subject of this blog. So you're right...
/really a genuine non=sarcastic comment, just needed to understand
If Dan Le Batard were black would we know he had a radio show?
Le Batard and Stephen A Smith should have a show together. Or, a steel cage match to dtermine who will live to ask the most retarded hypotheticals about race and sports.
You can hardly tell which one of these two has a juris doctorate.
Hmm...as a rookie, here is my obligatory "uh, what happened to my very first post am I doing this right oh god what's going on" post.
Sorry if this ends up being a repeated post.
Isn't Manu Ginobli from Argentina? Since when did he become a white European player like Dirk?? And don't tell me he's 'European' b/c he played in Italy. If that's the case, then Steve Nash is American, and he's the great white American NBA player Le Batard's searching for.
Jason Whitlock thinks that Jay Bilas should be ashamed of himself for playing the victim here and selfishly using this media attention as opportunity to recruit for Duke.
"Quien es mas macho?" Don't know, how do you actually measure vaginas to compare them?
Lebatard was asking an economics question: whether GMs and owners consider the prospect of obtaining the next great white american basketball player as part of their draft deliberations.
@I Party With Hansen: But can I still call him an asshat?...Because while the question was legit, he's still an asshat...
Bam?
Go Bilas!
@The Sports Hernia: +5
Dumber than Flounder actually.
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